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Standing Rigging

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:48 pm
by Symystic
I pulled my mast almost a year ago at the start of a refit. I carefully measured the old wire, and then recycled it. I'm ready to prepare the mast to go back in, I discovered I lost one piece of paper with the shroud lengths. Does anyone have these written down and willing to share?
The mast is on saw horses so I will make a mockup and take the lenghts. Having some to compare to would be wonderful. The total lenght of the top and both lowers is what I need. That way I can compensate for the turnbuckles. I'm in Malayisa and had the new wire shipped in from the states, so I can't just run get more. Thanks in advance. mark

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:42 am
by peterohman
Below is a description from another Ballad owner (in swedish unfortunately) who has done a similar job. Please note that the measured endpoints are not cc-measures.

För er som är intresserade så har jag nu måtten på vanten. Du måste mäta
från lagerytan på det ena ändstycket till lagerytan på det andra, alltså
inte center till center för då blir det fel. Se bild.

Topvanten är 10,390 ,detta är orginal med 7/16 vantskruv.
Med 1/2 tum blir vanten 10,355.

Undervanten skall vara 5,665 men 7/16 och 5,630 med 1/2tum.

Förstag är 11,266 med 7/16 och 11,231 med 1/2 tum.

Backstag på min ballad är 10,022 med 1/2 tum det blir 10,266
med 7/16. Detta kanske inte stämmer för all då hanfoten kan vara olika.

Eftersom röstjärnen är 11mm i hålet måste de borras upp till 13mm, det finns gott om gods.

Hoppas det hjälper någon som funderar på att ta steget till en starkare rigg.

Nr 13

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:53 pm
by Symystic
Thank you for the reply, I don't read that language and my efforts at translation are fruitless. mark

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:50 am
by peterohman
Ok, here is an attempt to translate...

For those of you who are interested, I now have the measurements. You have to measure
from the bearing surface of one end piece to the bearing surface of the other, thus
not center to center for then it will be wrong.

The top shrouds is 10,390 m, this is original with 7/16 turnbuckle.
With 1/2 inch turnbuckle the measurement becomes 10,355 m.

The lower shrouds shall be 5,665 with 7/16 and 5,630 with 1/2 inch.

The fore-shroud is 11,266 with 7/16 and 11,231 with 1/2 inch.

The back-shroud of my ballad is 10.022 with 1/2 inch it becomes 10,266
with 7/16.

Since the rods are 11mm in the hole, they must be drilled up to 13mm, there are plenty of goods.

Hope it helps someone who is thinking about taking the step to a stronger rig.

No. 13

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:58 am
by Symystic
Thank you for translating, that helps. If someone else has the measurements I would like to compare.

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:34 pm
by Symystic
I found the lost paperwork, thank you all for helping. Building new rigging now.

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:14 pm
by peterohman
Are there any differences between your figures and the ones from no 13?

Re: Standing Rigging

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:05 am
by Symystic
I never thought to compare. I had taken center to center measurements, was not clear on where the ( 13 ) measurements were taken . Boat is back in the water and I am glad. I did manage to miss the forestay length. Fortunately I could shorten in place with the Stay Loc fittings. Nice to know the rig should stay where it's supposed to.