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Blog EntryJun 28, '04 12:54 PM
by Jesper for everyone
I have bought and installed three new rudder bushings from http://vegamarin.se/ and they fit so tight that the tiller now needs a force of several Kg's to turn the rudder. Any feeling with the sailing is gone of course, and I will have to do something. I first assumed the wear would reduce the problem, but that will take many years off course, the nylon material (Delrin) is likely to be very very tough.  The bushings fitted very well to the rudder stem before installing, but the they fitted very tightly when inserted into the hull, and seem to have become just a little smaller from that. I plan to put the boat back on land to pull the rudder some 20 cm out, and I will then drill the upper and the lower bushings with a 25 mm drill, to remove a fraction of a millimeter. The stem is 25 mm. The middle bushing is not likely to be tight since the stem at that position has been worn 1 or 2 millimeters down.
 
Any advice or other experiences with new bushings would be interesting to hear about. 

msn-moosedundee00351 wrote on Aug 11, '04
I changed my rudder-bushings ( bought at the same store) this winter. It was very tight replacing the rudder and the stearing afterwards was tight as you explane. I wouldn't drill the bushings. I have sailed around 1000 miles, and the rudder is OK loose at this moment.
 
jespermilling wrote on Aug 12, '04

I did in fact pull
the rudder out a foot or two, and made the bushing slightly larger. I used a
tool called a "rival" in danish, I haven't been able to find the english name
for this tool. It's not a drill, and it is not turned by a machine. it has six
long knifes around an axle, and can be adjusted. when turned with a wrench it
kind of scrapes the inner sides of the bushing. The scraping was only on parts
of the inner sides, and I concluded that the bedding for the bushing is not
straight or fair, and deforms the bushing slightly. I am happy though that I
made this adjustement of a few tens of millimeters because now it turns nicely,
but isn't loose at all.

 

 

Venlig Hilsen / Kind regards

 

Jesper Milling, Fiskerv챈nget 12, DK5600 Faaborg,
+45 6261 8713

 
msn-ulrikkejser wrote on Nov 15, '08
Do you have any pictures of the replacement process? Where cant you get or borrow the tool you mention?
Ulrik
"My" #336
msn-caradog666 wrote on Nov 16, '08
This is an interesting discussion.  My tiller and rudder has a littel bit of play in it (<5 cm) and I was wondering if I needed to replace the bushings myself.  I was hoping to get away with it for this next year as I did not plan pulling the boat out of the water until spring 2010 (we dont get alot of fouling up here and the boat bottom at the moment is very clean after being out this year).  What made you decided to change the bushings?  If keep using the rudder with this little bit of play will I be able to get away with making the changes next year ? (I honestly cannot remember when this play started happening but I was aware of it this year after a bit of rougher swell on one sailing trip).
Mark
 
jespermilling wrote on Nov 17, '08
Hi Ulrik and Mark
 
I replaced the bushings, because I disliked the slack, but the slack itself is not dangerous or harmfull. I also replaced th bushings, because I hoped later to remove or move the tiller, which I also did, so when I had the opportunity to replace the bushings I did.
 
The new bushings however seemed a little too tight, and I lost the feeling with the balance of the boat and sails, so I had to make the inside diameter of the bushing a little larger with a cutting tool called a "Reamer", in Danish a "Rival". (Ikke en konkurrent. Udtales med tryk pÃ¥ første stavelse: en ri-val). The bushings are made out of nylon, and when inserted in the boat they tend to become slightly oval, thus squezing the rudder stem. This is because the hole in the ship for the bushing is probably not perfectly round or perfectly aligned with the hole at the top.  Therefor the bushings might fit perfectly when fitted over the rudder stem when trying on for size with the rudder out of the hull. You might even think the new bushings are a little too big. But when everything is reassembled, you may have the feeling the bushing are too small.
 
Anyway, if the movement of the tiller (and rudder) is reduced, and the tiller remains in the same position when you let go of it while sailing. Then you might want to use a reamer. You might also want to wait til the wear has solved the problem, but that might take years.
 
A reamer is described and illustrated here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reamer
 
I used an adjustable hand reamer, and merely schratched the internal surface of the bushings. Don't remove the bushings for this operation. You want to compensate for the ovalness if there is any. An adjustable hand reamer looks like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:ReamerAdjustableHand.jpg
 
This posting is not very well organized, and you may think this is very very complicated. Well it is in fact very simple when you have the rigt tool. I borrowed mine from the local boatequipment and boat engine dealer.
 
Good luck.
 
jespermilling wrote on Nov 17, '08
Sorry - no pictures.
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